So it is now known that the amount of speed you get from the big slide at the end of stage 1 on the slope is dependent on monitor framerate. I just did a test on 60hz vs 144hz monitor and on 60hz you literally can't get speed from the slope at all while on 144hz you can get insane speed from it to fly/jump across to the end. Not sure if you can do anything to fix this but its a huge problem because some people can't even Speedrun it if they wanted to now. So if it cant be fixed then separate categories will have to be made for different monitor framerates.
Yeah I noticed that inconsistency in the videos, been looking into it. I thought I programmed the physics to be framerate independent, but Unity can be weird.
Using deltaTime in Update. But that wasn't the issue. It was just a weird Unity physics thing. I just changed it so I manually calculate the boost speed based on the slope angle instead of letting Unity do whatever it was doing, and it works fine now.
Ah, gotcha. To be fair, physics stuff is usually better off using fixed time for this very reason. This article is really helpful in understanding; maybe it'll be useful to you. The article discusses this from the angle of a different issue, but applying physics using regular deltaTime is impacted by framerate.
I think this could be optimized more by hitting the edge of the second floating book (around 0:11) to reach the book with less waiting time. Also someone posted that apparently you can jump off the book at around (0:17) without lag, might be timing related though. Cool run!
I want to say that it doesn't matter too much. I think the critical point is the green book at 0:17. If you slow yourself down enough, you can clear the corner to keep some speed instead of hard stopping.
The downloaded version is always slightly going left for me? I even unplugged any my controllers and it's still doing it. EDIT: Apparently unplugging my PS4 wireless adapter fixed it, weird.
Amezing game, you're a legend. Downloaded game is definitely really smooth and love the sound effects. However, the in-browser game demo seems to have a bug where max jump-height can't clear the first large book-stack, thus you can't really playtest the game. I compared it to the downloaded version and there is definitely a jump-height discrepancy. Was using Google Chrome. Love the work though.
Fair enough criticisms. I've had enough people say they aren't fans of the camera that I might have an option for a more standard 2D camera. Keeping track of collectibles and deaths is planned, just haven't done it yet.
As for the 2021 thing, uh... well you see, she's a time traveler, so it was actually an intentional meta joke. Yeah, that's what I'm going with.
I know what you're talking about and its only happened to me like 10 times ever. I think its a pixel perfect super jump off the first book but you can also do the same to anything else although I haven't done it in any actual runs and its not consistent. But yeah I think the super jump with the book at the beginning is going to be the only way to get sub 15 now.
It just happened to me again and I decided to clip it. Still no idea what causes it but it happens once in a while. and it does appear to be pixel perfect on the edge. https://clips.twitch.tv/AmericanSlipperyGoshawkOSfrog
Thanks for the video. I think I have an idea of what might cause it. Do you think it's something I should fix, or is it something you think might add to speedruns?
I think you should keep it because it would make things more interesting for Speedrunners. I don't think it would happen enough to normal players to really be an annoyance and cause any harm. But also if you remove it I'll just keep playing on the vanilla version for the sake of faster times in the future. You could remove it and have the removed and non removed versions both available but honestly I don't think its that big of a deal for the general public that will play this game. And for Speedrunners it seems to be the next big key to getting crazy times so I ask that you keep it please.
You can actually do it without dying too. I pulled it off in a speedrun before I knew the optimized route for 30 seconds. It's really fucking rare tho and even when it happens you die most of the time
-Rapidly pressing W and S on this platform (not sure about others) can lead to Ame being yeeted into the sky forever and never falling back down. -Holding or tapping the Xbox Controller's X button on loading up the game will soft lock it with ame in her standing pose when it does load.
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this controls so great! hope you make a full game of this
This game is so nice I don't want to download it without donating!
Also I found a bug that launches Amelia in the void
So it is now known that the amount of speed you get from the big slide at the end of stage 1 on the slope is dependent on monitor framerate. I just did a test on 60hz vs 144hz monitor and on 60hz you literally can't get speed from the slope at all while on 144hz you can get insane speed from it to fly/jump across to the end. Not sure if you can do anything to fix this but its a huge problem because some people can't even Speedrun it if they wanted to now. So if it cant be fixed then separate categories will have to be made for different monitor framerates.
holy smokes i cant believe you figured it out!
i guess dev will have to start locking framerates?
credit to tryptech for finding that
Yeah I noticed that inconsistency in the videos, been looking into it. I thought I programmed the physics to be framerate independent, but Unity can be weird.
Are you using a deltaTime approach in the Update method or fixedDeltaTime in the FixedUpdate method?
Using deltaTime in Update. But that wasn't the issue. It was just a weird Unity physics thing. I just changed it so I manually calculate the boost speed based on the slope angle instead of letting Unity do whatever it was doing, and it works fine now.
Ah, gotcha. To be fair, physics stuff is usually better off using fixed time for this very reason. This article is really helpful in understanding; maybe it'll be useful to you. The article discusses this from the angle of a different issue, but applying physics using regular deltaTime is impacted by framerate.
Great work, by the way, super creative!
we have a speedrunning discord now to submit runs https://discord.gg/GKrzH4Rx
https://clips.twitch.tv/HotCleverGarbageGrammarKing best run I got was fun to play with can't wait for the full version!
here's an All Bubba speedrun
God this is good
Did you talk to Walfie for smol ame custom animation sprites? Would like to try to develop 2D hololive games as well.
That was ame-zing!
New WR for Stage 2 (1:07.056)
my b
my b b
Awesome slide at the end!
I think this could be optimized more by hitting the edge of the second floating book (around 0:11) to reach the book with less waiting time. Also someone posted that apparently you can jump off the book at around (0:17) without lag, might be timing related though. Cool run!
I tried and tried the 0:11 jump it doesn't appear to be possible
Although I've made a lot of claims which turned out be wrong
I want to say that it doesn't matter too much.
I think the critical point is the green book at 0:17. If you slow yourself down enough, you can clear the corner to keep some speed instead of hard stopping.
14.697s
The downloaded version is always slightly going left for me? I even unplugged any my controllers and it's still doing it. EDIT: Apparently unplugging my PS4 wireless adapter fixed it, weird.
So cute and fun game!
Amezing game, you're a legend. Downloaded game is definitely really smooth and love the sound effects. However, the in-browser game demo seems to have a bug where max jump-height can't clear the first large book-stack, thus you can't really playtest the game. I compared it to the downloaded version and there is definitely a jump-height discrepancy. Was using Google Chrome. Love the work though.
Oh yeah, forgot to post my personal best for the first level here:
Smol Ame speedrun Any% (First Level) [00.16.442] - YouTube
Holo Bass livestreaming your game yo!
I speedrunned ground pounding your mom. This game is amazing for the little content it has. Love the camera and animations. Really fun to speedrun.
This is way too good for a shitpost.
If you do a speedrun, post it here until the speedrun.com leaderboard is approved. A video or screenshot would be nice too
The leaderboard was rejected as the game is incomplete. I'll do my best to keep the times documented and resubmit whenever the game is complete
Show post...
bruh
Great game with 10/10 graphics and sounds.
lol
why are you telling me this, when it's not avaible in my country :((
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God damn I really suck at this
Is there a way/shortcut to reset the level mid way other than finishing it? If not, it would be pretty usefull to speedrun
I would like this please
A restart or menu option would be great
There is, hold esc to go in menu and to restart hold r button.
and so... it begins...
This is... okay. I'm not a big fan of the shifting camera messing me up on jumps, or the mixing of 2d Ame with 3d everything else.
While the collectibles and death count don't necessarily need to do anything, it would be nice to track them and let us know how we did.
Your download says 2020-1-26... but I think you meant 2021.
Fair enough criticisms. I've had enough people say they aren't fans of the camera that I might have an option for a more standard 2D camera. Keeping track of collectibles and deaths is planned, just haven't done it yet.
As for the 2021 thing, uh... well you see, she's a time traveler, so it was actually an intentional meta joke. Yeah, that's what I'm going with.
00:15.653
I guess this is the most optimized route for now?
can't think of any else
except there seems to be a random chance for the first book stack to fly you further than normal, possibly skipping the second pound.
I don't know how to replicate this as of now, but it happened to me once.
I know what you're talking about and its only happened to me like 10 times ever. I think its a pixel perfect super jump off the first book but you can also do the same to anything else although I haven't done it in any actual runs and its not consistent. But yeah I think the super jump with the book at the beginning is going to be the only way to get sub 15 now.
Someone got sub 15 just now. Apparently the last slide off the board can be optimized more. He seems to slide off it with an incredible speed lol
It just happened to me again and I decided to clip it. Still no idea what causes it but it happens once in a while. and it does appear to be pixel perfect on the edge.
https://clips.twitch.tv/AmericanSlipperyGoshawkOSfrog
Thanks for the video. I think I have an idea of what might cause it. Do you think it's something I should fix, or is it something you think might add to speedruns?
I think you should keep it because it would make things more interesting for Speedrunners. I don't think it would happen enough to normal players to really be an annoyance and cause any harm. But also if you remove it I'll just keep playing on the vanilla version for the sake of faster times in the future. You could remove it and have the removed and non removed versions both available but honestly I don't think its that big of a deal for the general public that will play this game. And for Speedrunners it seems to be the next big key to getting crazy times so I ask that you keep it please.
You can actually do it without dying too. I pulled it off in a speedrun before I knew the optimized route for 30 seconds. It's really fucking rare tho and even when it happens you die most of the time
I also had this jump but I went much further, no video sorry
How do you get enough air time to jump next to the plant? I never make it
Hit the edge of the book, it will bounce you further.
Edit: actually not sure which jump you're talking about lol sorry
I'm talking about the one where you jump on the the pinboard and slide under the plant leaves to the finish line.
You mean, ground pound the pinboard, slide and jump at the end of the table?
goty 2021
We speedrun now
Doesn’t work in Firefox, fullscreens and then goes back to normal mode if you click it.
Fluke I guess?
great demo
i don't know if it was intentional or not but this game is incredibly fun to speedrun
i got 00:18.578 and i'm p sure it's possible to do better
goty
Damn the ground pound mechanic feels almost as good as your mom last night
Lookin good
"Nothing beats a Ground Pound"
- Amelia "The Gremlin" Watson
Pretty cool! Some bugs I found though:
-Rapidly pressing W and S on this platform (not sure about others) can lead to Ame being yeeted into the sky forever and never falling back down.
-Holding or tapping the Xbox Controller's X button on loading up the game will soft lock it with ame in her standing pose when it does load.
Thanks! The specifics on how to recreate these bugs are incredibly useful.
Hey this was fun to play! Thank you for making this and can't wait to see what you'll add next!
this is so cool and amazing i really liked this game